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		<title>By: ljohnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>ljohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We did meet with our lawyer last week. I&#039;ve been requested not to comment on its progress.

Thank you again to everyone who sent me e-mails. I just can&#039;t believe the amount of support out there. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We did meet with our lawyer last week. I&#8217;ve been requested not to comment on its progress.</p>
<p>Thank you again to everyone who sent me e-mails. I just can&#8217;t believe the amount of support out there. </p>
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		<title>By: east1ender</title>
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		<dc:creator>east1ender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 11:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ljohnson, did you file your lawsuit yet?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ljohnson, did you file your lawsuit yet?</p>
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		<title>By: readytomove</title>
		<link>http://savepottstown.com/lang/es/2011/07/crime-wave-hits-the-east-end/comment-page-1/#comment-2373</link>
		<dc:creator>readytomove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many thanks Even Keel for the information! I really appreciate you taking the time to post it. It is a big help.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks Even Keel for the information! I really appreciate you taking the time to post it. It is a big help.</p>
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		<title>By: UpSideDown</title>
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		<dc:creator>UpSideDown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 03:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Even Keel,, you have put things into clearer perspective for me too.  It is convoluted and difficult to grasp all the intricacies when it is presented piece meal in the press.  Further complicated by the smoke and mirrors put out by Hylton and the fishwrap.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Even Keel,, you have put things into clearer perspective for me too.  It is convoluted and difficult to grasp all the intricacies when it is presented piece meal in the press.  Further complicated by the smoke and mirrors put out by Hylton and the fishwrap.</p>
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		<title>By: Even Keel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Even Keel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It amazes me that some school board members will make this decision based on buildings. Buildings! Not tax savings, not a better educational product, not improved efficiency, but buildings.

IMHO, the two biggest questions to ask and base a decision from are:

1) What are the future costs to the town in tax dollars? What plan saves us the most future tax dollars? 

2) What plan provides for the most efficient, effective educational product for the children?

So I&#039;ll take a stab at your question, readytomove, because my belief is that the recommended 3 school, PK - 5 plan accomplishes the best long-term savings.

While the 3 school plan is 33 million, there is a significant PDE reimbursement so that 33 quickly becomes 24. Let&#039;s figure in a more than generous cost overrun, just for arguments sake, and make it 26 mil for total construction costs of the 3 school plan.
 
The 5 school maintenance plan has been estimated (estimated, because there are still some figures which aren&#039;t known) as a 13-15 million dollar plan. There is no PDE reimbursement with this (and quite possibly a higher cost of financing.) Let&#039;s add in that same cost overrun and put it at 17 mil for the upgrade costs of the 5 school maintenance plan.
 
That leaves a high estimate of an upfront 9 million dollar difference between the two plans.
 
Now, let&#039;s look at the savings. With the 3 school plan, the savings in staff reductions is $750,000 in the first year. That cost was generated using this current year&#039;s salary/benefit numbers. This savings would actually increase each consecutive year (compounding) as teacher salaries/benefits costs are always increasing, which we&#039;re all painfully aware of.
 
Operating and utility cost savings for the 3 school plan would equal $135,000 the first year. (This figure does not take into account the efficiency savings of improved lighting, newer efficient HVAC systems, etc.) Again, this was calculated using this year&#039;s utility and operating costs and as they also go up every year, this savings would increase each consecutive year. 
 
So, in the first year alone the 3 school plan saves $885,000 in staff, operating and utility reductions and that number actually increases in every consecutive future year. But wait, there&#039;s more! The Plan-Con financing for the 3 school plan may yield a much better rate of financing. With current cap rates, it is very feasible it could be as much as 2% or more. There is a small savings to be had there. 

All totaled, the per annual savings of the 3 school plan would be very close to a million dollars. It would therefore take approx. less than 9 years to make up the savings of expending the additional 9 million dollars up front, right now for the 3 school plan. (Coincidentally, 9 years from now is when the highest debt burden of the PERS fiasco will be upon us. Seems to me we would want to be saving the most money possibly come that point in time to keep the tax burden lower than it needs to be.)

To be fair, the 5 school maintenance plan does provide savings, but nowhere near to these levels. The utility savings for the geo-thermal payoff alone are longer than 9 years. And I&#039;ll throw it out there - Mr. Hylton loves to say that his plan would keep these buildings open for 20+ more years but not Crabtree Rohrbaugh or any structural engineer has yet to professionally opine that sentiment.
 
Look at all the improvements you&#039;re getting with the 3 school plan that you aren&#039;t with the other: ADA compliance, multi-purpose rooms to accommodate PE and lunch, Pre-K rooms for a max of 20 students, classrooms for a max of 25 (classroom max is higher with the other plan), decent library, art, music and computer rooms. All of these things for lesser future tax dollars than keeping the current status quo.
 
Mr. Hylton loves to dangle the fact that Pottstown is the 7th highest taxed district in the State. His plan of &quot;light maintenance&quot; on 5 schools does nothing to help that figure. It is a band-aid for a system that has failed us when what we need is a shift towards a more efficient system. The 3 school plan gives us an opportunity to realize better efficiency in schools that attract people and includes significant future cost reductions.
  
We may never see taxes go down, but we can make the right choices to slow their impending rise in the future.

A wise Superintendent recently said, &quot;It takes courageous leadership from individuals in the community as well as those in official positions of leadership to focus on the issues that continually keep this community from reaching its potential.&quot;

Truer words were never spoken.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It amazes me that some school board members will make this decision based on buildings. Buildings! Not tax savings, not a better educational product, not improved efficiency, but buildings.</p>
<p>IMHO, the two biggest questions to ask and base a decision from are:</p>
<p>1) What are the future costs to the town in tax dollars? What plan saves us the most future tax dollars? </p>
<p>2) What plan provides for the most efficient, effective educational product for the children?</p>
<p>So I&#8217;ll take a stab at your question, readytomove, because my belief is that the recommended 3 school, PK &#8211; 5 plan accomplishes the best long-term savings.</p>
<p>While the 3 school plan is 33 million, there is a significant PDE reimbursement so that 33 quickly becomes 24. Let&#8217;s figure in a more than generous cost overrun, just for arguments sake, and make it 26 mil for total construction costs of the 3 school plan.</p>
<p>The 5 school maintenance plan has been estimated (estimated, because there are still some figures which aren&#8217;t known) as a 13-15 million dollar plan. There is no PDE reimbursement with this (and quite possibly a higher cost of financing.) Let&#8217;s add in that same cost overrun and put it at 17 mil for the upgrade costs of the 5 school maintenance plan.</p>
<p>That leaves a high estimate of an upfront 9 million dollar difference between the two plans.</p>
<p>Now, let&#8217;s look at the savings. With the 3 school plan, the savings in staff reductions is $750,000 in the first year. That cost was generated using this current year&#8217;s salary/benefit numbers. This savings would actually increase each consecutive year (compounding) as teacher salaries/benefits costs are always increasing, which we&#8217;re all painfully aware of.</p>
<p>Operating and utility cost savings for the 3 school plan would equal $135,000 the first year. (This figure does not take into account the efficiency savings of improved lighting, newer efficient HVAC systems, etc.) Again, this was calculated using this year&#8217;s utility and operating costs and as they also go up every year, this savings would increase each consecutive year. </p>
<p>So, in the first year alone the 3 school plan saves $885,000 in staff, operating and utility reductions and that number actually increases in every consecutive future year. But wait, there&#8217;s more! The Plan-Con financing for the 3 school plan may yield a much better rate of financing. With current cap rates, it is very feasible it could be as much as 2% or more. There is a small savings to be had there. </p>
<p>All totaled, the per annual savings of the 3 school plan would be very close to a million dollars. It would therefore take approx. less than 9 years to make up the savings of expending the additional 9 million dollars up front, right now for the 3 school plan. (Coincidentally, 9 years from now is when the highest debt burden of the PERS fiasco will be upon us. Seems to me we would want to be saving the most money possibly come that point in time to keep the tax burden lower than it needs to be.)</p>
<p>To be fair, the 5 school maintenance plan does provide savings, but nowhere near to these levels. The utility savings for the geo-thermal payoff alone are longer than 9 years. And I&#8217;ll throw it out there &#8211; Mr. Hylton loves to say that his plan would keep these buildings open for 20+ more years but not Crabtree Rohrbaugh or any structural engineer has yet to professionally opine that sentiment.</p>
<p>Look at all the improvements you&#8217;re getting with the 3 school plan that you aren&#8217;t with the other: ADA compliance, multi-purpose rooms to accommodate PE and lunch, Pre-K rooms for a max of 20 students, classrooms for a max of 25 (classroom max is higher with the other plan), decent library, art, music and computer rooms. All of these things for lesser future tax dollars than keeping the current status quo.</p>
<p>Mr. Hylton loves to dangle the fact that Pottstown is the 7th highest taxed district in the State. His plan of &#8220;light maintenance&#8221; on 5 schools does nothing to help that figure. It is a band-aid for a system that has failed us when what we need is a shift towards a more efficient system. The 3 school plan gives us an opportunity to realize better efficiency in schools that attract people and includes significant future cost reductions.</p>
<p>We may never see taxes go down, but we can make the right choices to slow their impending rise in the future.</p>
<p>A wise Superintendent recently said, &#8220;It takes courageous leadership from individuals in the community as well as those in official positions of leadership to focus on the issues that continually keep this community from reaching its potential.&#8221;</p>
<p>Truer words were never spoken.</p>
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		<title>By: readytomove</title>
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		<dc:creator>readytomove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 15:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, just to state again...I do agree reducing the number of schools. I don&#039;t see it as a cost savings though. I feel that it will help the educational and operational part of it. So, I suppose my support is not so much financial at this point. I do not use the district to educate my child even though we live in the district and pay taxes here. Just wanted to throw that out there- since I&#039;m not involved in the schools, I&#039;m not as educated as I should be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, just to state again&#8230;I do agree reducing the number of schools. I don&#8217;t see it as a cost savings though. I feel that it will help the educational and operational part of it. So, I suppose my support is not so much financial at this point. I do not use the district to educate my child even though we live in the district and pay taxes here. Just wanted to throw that out there- since I&#8217;m not involved in the schools, I&#8217;m not as educated as I should be.</p>
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		<title>By: readytomove</title>
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		<dc:creator>readytomove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 15:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t post much, but I do read this blog whenever there is an update. What I&#039;m confused about is how closing the schools is going to save money. The article in the &quot;Fishwrap&quot; showed taxes going up, not down. So, I must be missing something.  While I do agree they need to make a reduction and that should save money, why are the taxes slated to go up? Can anyone help clue me in? From what I read, no savings would come about until after 2020. Who knows what will happen then. The cost of the upgrades seem to defeat the purpose of closing the schools to save money.    Sorry for not knowing the answer already, I&#039;m not trying to stir up trouble. I just want to understand. Maybe I&#039;m not seeing the big picture.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t post much, but I do read this blog whenever there is an update. What I&#8217;m confused about is how closing the schools is going to save money. The article in the &#8220;Fishwrap&#8221; showed taxes going up, not down. So, I must be missing something.  While I do agree they need to make a reduction and that should save money, why are the taxes slated to go up? Can anyone help clue me in? From what I read, no savings would come about until after 2020. Who knows what will happen then. The cost of the upgrades seem to defeat the purpose of closing the schools to save money.    Sorry for not knowing the answer already, I&#8217;m not trying to stir up trouble. I just want to understand. Maybe I&#8217;m not seeing the big picture.</p>
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		<title>By: east1ender</title>
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		<dc:creator>east1ender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 10:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not Hylton as much as this statement &quot;East1ender, could you e-mail me the names of your neighbors who posted the flyers? I want to include their names in the lawsuit my husband and I plan on filing.&quot;
So a citizen wants to voice their opinion and put up a flier to organize a meeting, you want to include that person in a lawsuit? I think we are on the same goal just different methods.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not Hylton as much as this statement &#8220;East1ender, could you e-mail me the names of your neighbors who posted the flyers? I want to include their names in the lawsuit my husband and I plan on filing.&#8221;<br />
So a citizen wants to voice their opinion and put up a flier to organize a meeting, you want to include that person in a lawsuit? I think we are on the same goal just different methods.</p>
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		<title>By: UpSideDown</title>
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		<dc:creator>UpSideDown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 01:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But eastender,  one of the candidates that Hylton has put forth really has a criminal record.  It&#039;s not SP or anyone else making unverified statements.  You can look his record up on web, it&#039;s a known fact.

You have so vehemently spoken up for Hylton&#039;s right to say whatever he wants but you flip out at the idea of ljohnson filing a lawsuit if they choose to?  What&#039;s the difference?  They have the same right to file suit as Hylton has to spread his propaganda.  I don&#039;t understand why that ruffled your feathers?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But eastender,  one of the candidates that Hylton has put forth really has a criminal record.  It&#8217;s not SP or anyone else making unverified statements.  You can look his record up on web, it&#8217;s a known fact.</p>
<p>You have so vehemently spoken up for Hylton&#8217;s right to say whatever he wants but you flip out at the idea of ljohnson filing a lawsuit if they choose to?  What&#8217;s the difference?  They have the same right to file suit as Hylton has to spread his propaganda.  I don&#8217;t understand why that ruffled your feathers?</p>
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		<title>By: ljohnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>ljohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So it&#039;s okay for Tom Hylton to threaten to sue the school district (numerous times as he&#039;s done in the past), but when I propose naming him and his wife in a lawsuit, I&#039;m labeled an extremist?

I think the people wanting to keep Rupert propped up are the extremists in this town.

Thank you everyone for the e-mails of support. I&#039;m so surprised at how many other taxpayers of Pottstown are as fed up with Tom Hylton as my husband and myself are. The Mercury really is pulling the wool over everyone&#039;s eyes about Tom Hylton. The majority of taxpayers really do no support him or his extreme (and costly!) ideas.

Thank you!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it&#8217;s okay for Tom Hylton to threaten to sue the school district (numerous times as he&#8217;s done in the past), but when I propose naming him and his wife in a lawsuit, I&#8217;m labeled an extremist?</p>
<p>I think the people wanting to keep Rupert propped up are the extremists in this town.</p>
<p>Thank you everyone for the e-mails of support. I&#8217;m so surprised at how many other taxpayers of Pottstown are as fed up with Tom Hylton as my husband and myself are. The Mercury really is pulling the wool over everyone&#8217;s eyes about Tom Hylton. The majority of taxpayers really do no support him or his extreme (and costly!) ideas.</p>
<p>Thank you!!</p>
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